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		<title>By: Matthew F Daniels</title>
		<link>http://www.mdaniels.com/how-the-father-of-advertising-wrote-and-designed-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-364</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew F Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 04:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks cornelia for the comment. completely agree!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks cornelia for the comment. completely agree!</p>
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		<title>By: coco1212</title>
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		<dc:creator>coco1212</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 01:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Ogilvy was truly a visionary and a great marketer, he wrote the book on advertising *literally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Ogilvy was truly a visionary and a great marketer, he wrote the book on advertising *literally.</p>
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		<title>By: What Every Marketing Student Should Know &#8211; Welcome to LA</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Every Marketing Student Should Know &#8211; Welcome to LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ogilvy, &#8220;The Father of Advertising&#8221; and founder of Oglivy &amp; Mather said it best when he said: &#8220;I notice increasing reluctance [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ogilvy, &#8220;The Father of Advertising&#8221; and founder of Oglivy &amp; Mather said it best when he said: &#8220;I notice increasing reluctance [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James Fowlkes</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Fowlkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,
Do you read any of the blogs on the Adage Power 150?  If so, which single one would you reccommend, other than Seth&#039;s?  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,<br />
Do you read any of the blogs on the Adage Power 150?  If so, which single one would you reccommend, other than Seth&#8217;s?  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Daniels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Touche.

It seems to me that Ogilvy recommending a headline in all advertisements is different than using Twitter.

Bear with me: for example, in Basketball, it makes sense to have tall, fast, athletic players. Research and time has shown this to be the best way to win basketball games (i.e., use headlines, serif font). A zone offense or full-court press is a strategy, which may work for some teams and may not work for others based on the their team structure (i.e., Use Twitter, Facebook, etc.).

I think that this is difference between the Ogilvy and the point from Seth Godin.

And you&#039;re right, Ogilvy was in a different landscape for advertising, when ads were often read and long copy made sense. But I still think that the fundamentals ring true (i.e., test your ads and research what was successful). Also, tactical maneuvers like drop caps and testimonials were proven to increase readership. Again, things have changed, but understanding why they worked is again important. Drop caps stand out. Testimonials reflect our follow-the-herd behavior bias.

I&#039;m going to have to disagree about your last point, &quot;If their were a perfect formula, every agency would be using it and every client would be demanding it...especially if it guaranteed sales.&quot; David Ogilvy stressed this point repeatedly. Even in the 1970s, when many advertising schemes were proven to be successful, rarely did agencies or clients demand to use tactics that worked. For some reason, everyone sought to be &quot;creative,&quot; even though studies showed that their creative license caused poor performance. Ogilvy laughed at this absurdity, especially clients that ignored the facts. It supports why Ogilvy was so successful over the years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Touche.</p>
<p>It seems to me that Ogilvy recommending a headline in all advertisements is different than using Twitter.</p>
<p>Bear with me: for example, in Basketball, it makes sense to have tall, fast, athletic players. Research and time has shown this to be the best way to win basketball games (i.e., use headlines, serif font). A zone offense or full-court press is a strategy, which may work for some teams and may not work for others based on the their team structure (i.e., Use Twitter, Facebook, etc.).</p>
<p>I think that this is difference between the Ogilvy and the point from Seth Godin.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re right, Ogilvy was in a different landscape for advertising, when ads were often read and long copy made sense. But I still think that the fundamentals ring true (i.e., test your ads and research what was successful). Also, tactical maneuvers like drop caps and testimonials were proven to increase readership. Again, things have changed, but understanding why they worked is again important. Drop caps stand out. Testimonials reflect our follow-the-herd behavior bias.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to have to disagree about your last point, &#8220;If their were a perfect formula, every agency would be using it and every client would be demanding it&#8230;especially if it guaranteed sales.&#8221; David Ogilvy stressed this point repeatedly. Even in the 1970s, when many advertising schemes were proven to be successful, rarely did agencies or clients demand to use tactics that worked. For some reason, everyone sought to be &#8220;creative,&#8221; even though studies showed that their creative license caused poor performance. Ogilvy laughed at this absurdity, especially clients that ignored the facts. It supports why Ogilvy was so successful over the years.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a formula for making an ad,
that says in the middle of the formula,
&quot;Don&#039;t make an ad, look like an ad.&quot;
Ummm...but you just told me to.

Print ads for household disinfectant, a luxury handbag, and cholesterol medication should not all look the same.  Advertising was a very different business when Ogilvy formulated his ideas.

This is a classic VW ad - rightly considered a great ad.  It meets much of the criteria, outlined in your post.  But would it be successful today, (even with a more contemporary font)?
http://www.old-ads.com/images/2007/05/19/vw_ad.jpg

This ad violates many rules:  no copy, no brand in the headline, uses a logo, headline is before image, etc. etc.  But is this a bad ad when you are selling the pure indulgence and sex appeal of an $80k car?
http://dailybiz.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/bmw_uou.jpg

If their were a perfect formula, every agency would be using it and every client would be demanding it...especially if it guaranteed sales.

As a guru once said:  &quot;The only way your organization is going to make an impact is to market in the way only you can. Not by following some expert’s rules or following the herd, but by doing it in the way that works. For you.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a formula for making an ad,<br />
that says in the middle of the formula,<br />
&#8220;Don&#8217;t make an ad, look like an ad.&#8221;<br />
Ummm&#8230;but you just told me to.</p>
<p>Print ads for household disinfectant, a luxury handbag, and cholesterol medication should not all look the same.  Advertising was a very different business when Ogilvy formulated his ideas.</p>
<p>This is a classic VW ad &#8211; rightly considered a great ad.  It meets much of the criteria, outlined in your post.  But would it be successful today, (even with a more contemporary font)?<br />
<a href="http://www.old-ads.com/images/2007/05/19/vw_ad.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.old-ads.com/images/2007/05/19/vw_ad.jpg</a></p>
<p>This ad violates many rules:  no copy, no brand in the headline, uses a logo, headline is before image, etc. etc.  But is this a bad ad when you are selling the pure indulgence and sex appeal of an $80k car?<br />
<a href="http://dailybiz.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/bmw_uou.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://dailybiz.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/bmw_uou.jpg</a></p>
<p>If their were a perfect formula, every agency would be using it and every client would be demanding it&#8230;especially if it guaranteed sales.</p>
<p>As a guru once said:  &#8220;The only way your organization is going to make an impact is to market in the way only you can. Not by following some expert’s rules or following the herd, but by doing it in the way that works. For you.”</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 04:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  Thanks for this - a little clarity in the cacophony of social media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  Thanks for this &#8211; a little clarity in the cacophony of social media.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Daniels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drop initials are when you use a big letter at the beginning of an article.

Times New Roman seems to be dated...though it&#039;s still used in most newspapers and books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drop initials are when you use a big letter at the beginning of an article.</p>
<p>Times New Roman seems to be dated&#8230;though it&#8217;s still used in most newspapers and books.</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
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		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, interestingly we use Arial in all our pitch materials; I really haven&#039;t see much Times New Roman since graduating college . . .

What does &quot;drop initials&quot; mean?

I find it interesting that he hates logos; I think they really do help brands . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, interestingly we use Arial in all our pitch materials; I really haven&#8217;t see much Times New Roman since graduating college . . .</p>
<p>What does &#8220;drop initials&#8221; mean?</p>
<p>I find it interesting that he hates logos; I think they really do help brands . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Un comienzo, un objetivo II &#171; Soy un curioso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Un comienzo, un objetivo II &#171; Soy un curioso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Vamos con la segunda parte. Ahora centradas en las agencias de publicidad o en las grandes corporaciones de comunicación. Aye encontré un post muy bueno de Bud Cadell sobre otro de Matt Daniels: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Vamos con la segunda parte. Ahora centradas en las agencias de publicidad o en las grandes corporaciones de comunicación. Aye encontré un post muy bueno de Bud Cadell sobre otro de Matt Daniels: [...]</p>
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